Bali and World News and Views Editor's Comments:
A saying that I live by is "every adversity has within it the seed of an equal or greater benefit".
"Every adversity has within it the seed of an equal or greater benefit".
It is hard for love ones or anybody else to see any equal or greater benefit from the senseless deaths of 189 passengers on Lion Air flight 610 this past Monday.
But it now appears that Lion Air has discovered at least two other planes with faults in the air instrumentation systems which could lead to more accidents in the near future involving far more victims.
Since they may have now discovered more manufacturer defects in newer model 737 Max I'm sure the manufacturer Boeing located in Seattle, Washington will now investigate and check thoroughly every similar Boeing 737 MAX in the world.
According to Wikipedia a minutes ago
The Boeing 737 MAX family of aircraft, which is currently being produced by Boeing Commercial Airplanes, a division of the Boeing Company.
Initially, the customers for the 737 MAX were not disclosed, except for American Airlines. On November 17, 2011, Boeing released the names of two other customers – Lion Air and Aviation Capital Group.
As of September 30, 2018, Boeing had 4,783 firm orders from 98 identified customers for the 737 MAX,[5] and the top three identified airline customers for the 737 MAX are: Southwest Airlines with 310 orders, Flydubai with 251 orders, and Lion Air with 251 orders.[5]
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Orders and deliveries[edit]
Orders and deliveries by year[edit]As of September 30, 2018[5]
Cumulative Boeing 737 MAX orders and deliveries
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Like an automobile if one is wrong perhaps all of them are wrong and may lead to a major recall.
So this Indonesian tragedy may lead to saving thousands of passengers in the future.
Another way of looking at it is these souls of Flight JT 610 gave their lives to save many others in the future. Then indeed all 189 of them are Heros
This may help to give some closer to the relatives who lost their loved ones suddenly last Monday morning.
There may also be some major lawsuits against Boeing which will lead to substantial benefits to the families who lost their breadwinners.
God bless those who passed and their loved ones who may now reason their loved ones passed for a greater purpose.
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New details from the Lion Air crash emerge
Thomson Reuters (Markets) Australia Pty Ltd
Lion Air crash: Indonesia finds faults in two other Boeing 737-MAX jets after crash
AFP, APNews Corp Australia NetworkNovember 3, 2018 5:05AM
TOPICSAsiaWorld NewsNewsDisaster and EmergencyQLD NewsNT NewsRegional WAVIC News
INDONESIA’S transport ministry has found faults in two other Boeing 737-MAX 8 jets, including a cockpit indicator display problem which an analyst warned may be similar to one reported in the crashed Lion Air Jet.
The ministry said it is inspecting 10 of the newly released jets owned by Lion and flagship carrier Garuda, as authorities analyse data from a recovered black box that may help explain why flight JT610 plummeted into the Java Sea, killing 189 people on Monday.
Few details have been released, but the ministry said it had looked over half a dozen jets so far and discovered that one had a problem linked to its cockpit display while another had a glitch in a jet stabilisation system.
Both Lion-owned planes required new components, it said.
Thomson Reuters (Markets) Australia Pty Ltd
Lion Air crash: Indonesia finds faults in two other Boeing 737-MAX jets after crash
AFP, APNews Corp Australia NetworkNovember 3, 2018 5:05AM
TOPICSAsiaWorld NewsNewsDisaster and EmergencyQLD NewsNT NewsRegional WAVIC News
INDONESIA’S transport ministry has found faults in two other Boeing 737-MAX 8 jets, including a cockpit indicator display problem which an analyst warned may be similar to one reported in the crashed Lion Air Jet.
The ministry said it is inspecting 10 of the newly released jets owned by Lion and flagship carrier Garuda, as authorities analyse data from a recovered black box that may help explain why flight JT610 plummeted into the Java Sea, killing 189 people on Monday.
Few details have been released, but the ministry said it had looked over half a dozen jets so far and discovered that one had a problem linked to its cockpit display while another had a glitch in a jet stabilisation system.
Both Lion-owned planes required new components, it said.
Indonesian President Joko Widodo visits the search mission after new details about the jet’s previous flight cast more doubt on Lion Air’s claim to have fixed technical problems.Picture: AP
Aviation analyst Dudi Sudibyo said the cockpit display issue could include a speed-and-altitude glitch reported in the doomed jet.
Indonesia’s Tempo news website published a minute-by-minute summary of what it said were the conversations between air traffic control and the pilots of Monday’s fatal flight, who reported a “flight control problem” and were unsure of their altitude.
Asked about the accuracy of the report, National Transportation Safety Committee deputy head Haryo Satmiko said it had “similarities” with the information received “legally” by investigators.
Mr Sudibyo stressed that with aeroplanes, “even if there is a single, tiny fault it should not fly.”
If there is a problem with the new Boeing 737-MAX 8 jets, that will have implications for flyers around the world including Australia.
It’s understood Virgin Australia has 30 Boeing 737 MAX 8 planes on order, with the first of them due to arrive in November next year.
Aviation analyst Dudi Sudibyo said the cockpit display issue could include a speed-and-altitude glitch reported in the doomed jet.
Indonesia’s Tempo news website published a minute-by-minute summary of what it said were the conversations between air traffic control and the pilots of Monday’s fatal flight, who reported a “flight control problem” and were unsure of their altitude.
Asked about the accuracy of the report, National Transportation Safety Committee deputy head Haryo Satmiko said it had “similarities” with the information received “legally” by investigators.
Mr Sudibyo stressed that with aeroplanes, “even if there is a single, tiny fault it should not fly.”
If there is a problem with the new Boeing 737-MAX 8 jets, that will have implications for flyers around the world including Australia.
It’s understood Virgin Australia has 30 Boeing 737 MAX 8 planes on order, with the first of them due to arrive in November next year.
An investigator inspects debris hauled from the seabed after Lion Air flight JT610 crashed into the Java Sea on Monday.Picture: AP
Stephen Wright, an aviation expert at the University of Leeds, told AFP that the faults identified by the transport ministry in the two other Boeing jets were “very minor.”
He added that any problems with the new jet’s pitot-static system — which determines speed and altitude among other measurements — will be key to the probe.
The inspection comes as questions swirl about why a plane that had gone into service just months ago crashed into the sea minutes after takeoff.
The single-aisle jet, en route from Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang city, is one of the world’s newest and most advanced commercial passenger planes.
Stephen Wright, an aviation expert at the University of Leeds, told AFP that the faults identified by the transport ministry in the two other Boeing jets were “very minor.”
He added that any problems with the new jet’s pitot-static system — which determines speed and altitude among other measurements — will be key to the probe.
The inspection comes as questions swirl about why a plane that had gone into service just months ago crashed into the sea minutes after takeoff.
The single-aisle jet, en route from Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang city, is one of the world’s newest and most advanced commercial passenger planes.
The wheels of the ill-fated Lion Air flight JT 610.Picture: AFP, Adek Berry / AFP)
Budget carrier Lion Air’s admission that the doomed jet had a technical issue on a previous flight — as well its abrupt fatal dive — have raised questions about whether it had mechanical faults specific to the new model.
It has since come to light that the pilot on the plane’s previous flight on Sunday from Bali requested to return to the airport not long after takeoff but then reported the problem had been resolved and continued onto Jakarta.
Indonesia’s National Transportation Safety Committee said it was interviewing people who flew on the plane the day before the fatal crash.
Some have reported a frightening, erratic trip, an assertion that appears to be backed up by flight tracking data.
Budget carrier Lion Air’s admission that the doomed jet had a technical issue on a previous flight — as well its abrupt fatal dive — have raised questions about whether it had mechanical faults specific to the new model.
It has since come to light that the pilot on the plane’s previous flight on Sunday from Bali requested to return to the airport not long after takeoff but then reported the problem had been resolved and continued onto Jakarta.
Indonesia’s National Transportation Safety Committee said it was interviewing people who flew on the plane the day before the fatal crash.
Some have reported a frightening, erratic trip, an assertion that appears to be backed up by flight tracking data.
A wallet belonging to a victim is seen floating eerily in the waters of West Java.Picture: AP
TOTALLY DESTROYED
Over the says since the crash, tireless rescue workers hauled seats, wheels and other parts of the crashed jet from the depths off Indonesia’s north coast, as divers scoured the seabed for the fuselage.
“There is a lot of little debris, plane wheels, and seats — all totally destroyed and in pieces,” Isswarto, commander of the Indonesian navy’s search-and-rescue division said.
Divers were searching a relatively shallow area about 25-35 metres deep, but have been finding fewer body parts than earlier in the week, he added.
“They’re scattered everywhere and some may have been washed away by the current.”
Dozens of body bags containing remains have been recovered from the crash site.
TOTALLY DESTROYED
Over the says since the crash, tireless rescue workers hauled seats, wheels and other parts of the crashed jet from the depths off Indonesia’s north coast, as divers scoured the seabed for the fuselage.
“There is a lot of little debris, plane wheels, and seats — all totally destroyed and in pieces,” Isswarto, commander of the Indonesian navy’s search-and-rescue division said.
Divers were searching a relatively shallow area about 25-35 metres deep, but have been finding fewer body parts than earlier in the week, he added.
“They’re scattered everywhere and some may have been washed away by the current.”
Dozens of body bags containing remains have been recovered from the crash site.
The ill-fated flight’s black box was recovered from the Java Sea, during search operations in the waters off Karawang.Picture: AFP
On Thursday, one of the plane’s black boxes was recovered, and authorities are hunting for the second one.
The black box could offer investigators their best chance of discovering why the jet crashed. The devices help explain nearly 90 per cent of all crashes, according to aviation experts.
The devices record information about the speed, altitude and direction of the plane as well as flight crew conversations.
Boeing and US National Transportation Safety Board officials are taking part in the probe.
The search and rescue agency said the recovery effort would continue at least through Sunday.
Preliminary investigation results are expected to be made public by the end of the month.
On Thursday, one of the plane’s black boxes was recovered, and authorities are hunting for the second one.
The black box could offer investigators their best chance of discovering why the jet crashed. The devices help explain nearly 90 per cent of all crashes, according to aviation experts.
The devices record information about the speed, altitude and direction of the plane as well as flight crew conversations.
Boeing and US National Transportation Safety Board officials are taking part in the probe.
The search and rescue agency said the recovery effort would continue at least through Sunday.
Preliminary investigation results are expected to be made public by the end of the month.
POOR SAFETY RECORD
Passengers’ remains are being sent to hospital for DNA testing, with four passengers identified as of Friday.
The pilot on the doomed plane asked to return to Jakarta before the crash, but it remains unclear what caused the accident.
Passengers’ remains are being sent to hospital for DNA testing, with four passengers identified as of Friday.
The pilot on the doomed plane asked to return to Jakarta before the crash, but it remains unclear what caused the accident.
A relative prays as she and others wait for news on their loved ones. Only four passengers has been identified as of Friday.Picture: AP
The accident resurrected concerns about Indonesia’s poor air safety record which until recently saw its carriers facing years-long bans from entering European Union and US airspace.
There were nearly 40 fatal aviation accidents in Indonesia over the past 15 years, according to the Aviation Safety Network, including a 1997 crash that killed 234 people, the country’s deadliest plane accident.
Lion Air — which has had a number of incidents including a fatal 2004 crash — capitalised on an explosion in Indonesia’s domestic air travel market.
But concerns have been raised about pilot shortages in the industry and growth outstripping Indonesia’s strained regulatory and technical resources.
“The growth of the industry here has happened too fast,” Mr Sudibyo said.
Originally published as Terrifying new Lion Air discovery
The accident resurrected concerns about Indonesia’s poor air safety record which until recently saw its carriers facing years-long bans from entering European Union and US airspace.
There were nearly 40 fatal aviation accidents in Indonesia over the past 15 years, according to the Aviation Safety Network, including a 1997 crash that killed 234 people, the country’s deadliest plane accident.
Lion Air — which has had a number of incidents including a fatal 2004 crash — capitalised on an explosion in Indonesia’s domestic air travel market.
But concerns have been raised about pilot shortages in the industry and growth outstripping Indonesia’s strained regulatory and technical resources.
“The growth of the industry here has happened too fast,” Mr Sudibyo said.
Originally published as Terrifying new Lion Air discovery
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